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Tried to use my own images for Wikipedia but identified as copyright violation[edit]

Thanks a lot for all the timely help regarding my own artwork. Given the complexity involved, I decided to stop here and retract what I asked. Once again, thanks a lot. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bnurs (talk • contribs) 01:20, 16 July 2023‎ (UTC)Reply[reply]

foto young birds[edit]

Beste, ik heb de foto young birds opgeladen op de pagina van radio gemini maar zie hem niet verschijnen. Hoe komt het ? merci thierry missiaen Thierry Missiaen (talk) 08:56, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

photo young birds
Dear, I have uploaded the photo young birds to the radio Gemini page, but I do not see it appear. How come ? thanks thierry missiaen
translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Thierry Missiaen: Hallo, en welkom. File:Webradio Gemini.png is verwijderd omdat het auteursrechtelijk beschermde tekst bevatte. File:Gemini advertentie.jpg is verwijderd per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gemini advertentie.jpg. Besteed meer aandacht aan de berichten op uw gebruikersoverlegpagina.
Hi, and welcome. File:Webradio Gemini.png was deleted because it contained copyrighted text. File:Gemini advertentie.jpg was deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Gemini advertentie.jpg. Please pay more attention to the posts on your user talk page.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 16:37, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jeff G. and Thierry Missiaen: I believe those weren't the photos in question. Thierry Missiaen has asked this elsewhere and I've answered elsewhere. Of course, things would be simpler if people didn't ask exactly the same question at almost the same time on multiple pages. - Jmabel ! talk 18:39, 22 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Beste Jeff
Kan je de pagina 'radio gemini' op gebied van layout een beetje verbeteren ? Ikzelf ben niet in staat dit te doen.
Vriendelijk dank.
Thierry Missiaen Thierry Missiaen (talk) 16:01, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Thierry Missiaen: Ik heb "links|" toegepast naar elke andere afbeelding bovenaan en de laatste voor nl:Radio Gemini.
I applied "left|" to every other image at top and the last one for nl:Radio Gemini.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 22:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Chicago Principles[edit]

Do we have an image of the 2020 John Ellison "free speech principles" letter to the incoming University of Chicago freshman class? If not, is there a copyright issue, or can this document be added to Commons (see here and here)? -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 16:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Cl3phact0: Certainly any non-trivial letter written in the last several decades is copyrighted, with the exception of letters written in a work capacity by the employees of the federal government and certain state and local governments that make their works PD by default. University of Chicago is a private college, so those exceptions could not possibly apply. Do you have any evidence of a free license? - Jmabel ! talk 18:35, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No evidence whatsoever. It's widely published and a copy is available on the U of C site here, but nothing specifically indicating PD. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 19:39, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Cl3phact0: Then we cannot host it through 2020+95=2115, unless we get valid permission via VRT.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 20:48, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Noted and thanks for clarifying. I'm still struggling to grasp the nuances of what's ok and what's not here. Also guessing that a "fair-use" upload directly to enwiki for the relevant section of the Chicago Principles article would be a dead-end too? [NB: I'll make a note in my calendar to upload it in 2115 if we don't get it on Commons via VRT (or some other legitimate process) sooner.] Cheers, Cl3phact0 (talk) 17:20, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Cl3phact0: You're welcome, but see en:WP:F to be sure.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Descargar logos con mi cámara[edit]

Buenas una pregunta si yo tomo fotos de una institución (con mis derechos de autor) y después descargo a Commons y si descargo un Logo de una institución qué aparece en las afueras de la sede (en el que yo descargue) es necesario agregar el "Derived from" (Derivative versions)?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:22, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Download logos with my camera
Hello, a question if I take photos of an institution (with my copyright) and then download to Commons and if I download a Logo of an institution that appears outside the headquarters (in which I download) is it necessary to add the "Derived from" (Derivative versions)??
translator: Google Translate via   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 22:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AbchyZa22: Buenas. Sí, es necesario. El arquitecto(s) (en el caso del edificio(s) de la institución) y el diseñador del logotipo tienen derechos de autor que deben respetarse. Sin embargo, puede aplicarse FOP. ¿En qué país fotografiaste la institución y el logo?
Hi, and welcome. Yes, it is necessary. The architect(s) (in the case of the institution's building(s)) and the logo designer have copyrights that must be respected. However, FOP may apply. In what country did you photograph the institution and logo?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 22:52, 23 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jeff G.: Tomé la sede (Edificio) de la Alcaldía del Municipio Cruz Paredes del Estado Barinas, Venezuela.
AbchyZa22 (talk) 06:33, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@AbchyZa22: Veas tambien al COM:FOP Venezuela.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:51, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why was Chesebro mug shot removed?[edit]

Someone removed from Wikimedia the mug shot of Kenneth Chesebro.

All that seems to remain is this:

00:00, 25 October 2023 Explicit talk contribs deleted page File:Kenneth Chesebro mug shot.webp (F7: Violates non-free content criterion #1) Tag: Twinkle (thank)* 00:00, 25 October 2023 Explicit talk contribs deleted page File:Kenneth Chesebro mug shot.webp (F7: Violates non-free content criterion #1) Tag: Twinkle (thank)

I didn't upload the photo but have been editing the Chesebro article and don't understand why this happened.

Please advise why this was done. Thanks Utahredrock (talk) 01:49, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Utahredrock: There was never a File:Kenneth Chesebro mug shot.webp on Commons. en:File:Kenneth Chesebro mug shot.webp was, in fact, deleted, but Commons was not involved. I'd guess it was deleted on more or less the same basis as File:Kenneth Chesebro booking photo Fulton County Georgia.png, which was deleted per Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Copyright violations. The history on en-wiki describes the former file as "replaceable fair use," which is to say it was neither PD nor free-licensed, and since he is a living person it should, in principle, be possible to take a photo of him and free-license it. - Jmabel ! talk 05:25, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel: We can't travel back in time to before his mugshot photo was taken in order to recreate that photo ourselves.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:45, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jeff G.: en-wiki could decide it was fair use in an article -- not our affair here -- but that changes nothing for Commons. - Jmabel ! talk 23:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You did ask a similar question here, and I gave you a similar answer about why en-wiki probably couldn't accept such a photo on a "fair use" basis. - Jmabel ! talk 05:27, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading a photo on behalf of the owner/subject of the photo[edit]

Since the rules about uploading a photo seem to be complex and confusing, I asked the owner of the photo to upload it. He created an account, logged in, but when he went to upload the photo, he got all kinds of error messages about his ip address being blocked for some reason. I have never seen this.

So all I want to do is upload a photo, on behalf of the owner/subject (since he is being blocked for some reason) of the photo to be used on a wiki page for him. Do I need to upload it and still generate an email to him for him to approve? When option do I use for the license in this case?

Thanks, Steve Swilson317 (talk) 04:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • The block thing is weird. There must have been a vandal or long-term problem account using the same IP range. If you know the IP address, and it's stable, you might take this up at COM:AN.
  • If they might be able to get in from somewhere else (a different Internet connection) that would probably work. Failing that, there are two other ways to do this:
    • They can upload to a site or page clearly under their control (e.g. their own website, Flickr page or publicly visible social media account), indicate the license there, and you can then cite that as a source when you upload.
    • They can go through the email-based COM:VRT process.
  • Either way, they can choose any acceptable license. You would use whatever license they select (I recommend {{CC-BY-SA-4.0}}) and be sure to clarify any necessary attribution (e.g. {{CC-BY-SA-4.0|THAT GUY}}), which produces:
    w:en:Creative Commons

attribution share alike

This file is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 4.0 International license.
Attribution: THAT GUY
You are free:
  • to share – to copy, distribute and transmit the work
  • to remix – to adapt the work
Under the following conditions:
  • attribution – You must give appropriate credit, provide a link to the license, and indicate if changes were made. You may do so in any reasonable manner, but not in any way that suggests the licensor endorses you or your use.
  • share alike – If you remix, transform, or build upon the material, you must distribute your contributions under the same or compatible license as the original.
Jmabel ! talk 15:28, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for your reply. The image is located in the Gallery section of his own website (https://michaelkollwitz.com/gallery/). Are you saying that he needs to add verbiage on that webpage regarding the license? If so, can you recommend wording? Thanks again! Swilson317 (talk) 18:16, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Swilson317: That website looks like a bunch of pictures of one person, not by one person. Remember that normally the license has to come from the photographer, not the subject of the photo, and it is the photographer, not the subject who needs to be attributed as author. Unless these are self-taken photos with an auto-timer or something like that, permission from the subject's page is likely to be challenged.
That said, and assuming the copyright & credit are clear, the copyright-holder can say something under the photo in question saying something like "This photo is available for reuse under CC-BY-SA 4.0 [which I'd suggest linking to https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en], and should be attributed to NAME GOES HERE." It would be nice (but not necessary) to add "This license allows derivative works and commercial use, but requires correct attribution," to make it clear that the person granting the license knows what they are doing. - Jmabel ! talk 19:07, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks. He did not take the photo, but has purchased the photo from the photographer and owns the rights to use it. I will share this information with him. I have also suggested that he follow-up with Wikimedia to resolve the block, as he should have "normal" access. Swilson317 (talk) 20:50, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Swilson317: "Rights to use it" may not be quite enough if the copyright was not overtly transferred. I don't know exactly what the VRT people might want on this. If the copyright was transferred, he could probably email them a copy of the transfer document; if he has an unlimited, transferable license, I suspect (but don't know) that would be about the same. But anything short of that might not let him issue the CC license, and the photographer might need to be involved. In any case, besides the aforementioned note on his own website, it would be good to send a copy of the transfer contract to the address given on COM:VRT. I know this sounds like overkill, but I imagine you've been around here long enough to know how often people are mistaken in thinking they have intellectual property rights they don't actually have. - Jmabel ! talk 03:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Is my email registered with the WikiLovesMonuments 2023 contest?[edit]

Hello - I'm terrible at this sort of thing. I entered the above-mentioned contest last week, but only just now realized that I was supposed to click a link in an email in my inbox to confirm/register my email address so that I can be notified if I happen to place/win a prize in the contest. I just clicked the link in that email but it says that the link has expired. How can I get a new link? Thanks for any help! Diane Stanton/MyMiskyStinks56 MyMiskyStinks56 (talk) 16:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MyMiskyStinks56: Hi, and welcome. I am allowed to email you, so you should be eligible.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:40, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you, Jeff!  :) MyMiskyStinks56 (talk) 16:13, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@MyMiskyStinks56: You're welcome.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 04:12, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Logos con Escudo de Armas y/o Banderas en Venezuela[edit]

Buenas, se puede descargar Logos con Escudo de Armas y/o Banderas en Venezuela (qué todavía existe en Wikimedia) de una Alcaldía, Concejo Municipal etc. pero inspirados por otros, es necesario agregar "Derived from" (Derivative versions)?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 21:50, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@AbchyZa22 Buenas. Veas al {{PD-VenezuelaGov}} y COM:DW.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:37, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Error: File extension ".jpg" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/png).[edit]

Hi, does anyone know how to fix this error? It kept showing: "Upload warning File extension ".jpg" does not match the detected MIME type of the file (image/png)."


I'm uploading a new version of a file with higher quality, the file name and file extension are exactly the same for both the Source filename and Destination filename, so I'm not really sure why that error is appearing. Cjse23 (talk) 00:45, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • @Cjse23: You can't use a file that is actually a PNG to replace a JPEG. You can (for example) bring it into GIMP and export it as a proper JPEG, then upload that.
  • Just to make sure, since you are pretty new here: I hope you have read COM:OVERWRITE. In my experience, most of the time when people think they ought to overwrite a file and don't know exactly how this all works, they are wrong about overwriting being a good idea. - Jmabel ! talk 03:19, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading images[edit]

i have tried to upload my own work drawing,and it can't continue because I have low momery

@Everyone who had this issue I need your help ?

@Piet Tumelo Nzimande Piet Tumelo Nzimande (talk) 06:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Piet Tumelo Nzimande: Hi, and welcome. Have you tried rebooting or using another device?   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:31, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can I use a free map of the silk road[edit]

Silk road map FABIOUSKA (talk) 08:47, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, Can you tell us which map you are talking about? We don't have prescient powers, so we can't help you until you give more details. Thanks, Yann (talk) 12:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I would like to use this map of the silk road for a publication. Thank you File:Silk_road_map.jpg. FABIOUSKA (talk) 13:32, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The claim of "own work" there is clearly wrong, so the license is not valid. I'll be nominating that for deletion, and unless something comes up that I don't see, I'd say don't use it for anything. - Jmabel ! talk 14:53, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

how do I upload a page that I have written?[edit]

I wrote a whole page on Wikipedia NL, but it is not published. How do I publish the page? Klaubert (talk) 13:43, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Klaubert: For a detailed answer, you'd really have to take that up with Wikipedia NL, but you don't "upload" a page to Wikipedia, you have to write it within the wiki (either in wikitext or with the visual WYSISYG editor). You can copy-paste text from (for example) a text file or Word doc to start the article but (for example) you need to use Wikipedia's own method of footnoting and highlighting. - Jmabel ! talk 14:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Klaubert: It is now published at nl:Marcel Sijm and partially at User talk:Klaubert.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:23, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The version on your user talk page was oos for Commons.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fotos hochladen[edit]

Ich möchte Familienfotos im Besitz meiner Familie hochladen, die ich nicht selbst gemacht habe. Zum Teil sind die Fotos mehr als 70 Jahre alt. Und weiter habe ich Fotos aus Zeitungen der 1930er Jahre oder früher. Wie kann ich diese hochladen? Richifield (talk) 14:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Richifield: Sind Sie der Erbe des betreffenden geistigen Eigentums? - Jmabel ! talk 14:59, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ja, bin ich. Richifield (talk) 07:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Found unsafe CSS in the style element of uploaded SVG file.[edit]

I was trying to change [:File:Zigzag theorem 2.pdf] to svg and created the svg by typing the below command in power shell:

latex zigzagsvg2

dvisvgm --font-format=woff2 zigzagsvg2

But I failed to upload the file. Would you give me some advice? Silvermatsu (talk) 18:04, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Thank you for correcting the link. Also, it was ".tex -> .dvi -> .svg" rather than ".pdf -> .svg" to be exact. --Silvermatsu (talk) 08:48, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Silvermatsu: are you saying you've successfully created an SVG and cannot upload it? Are you trying to use it to overwrite the PDF (impossible) or just trying to upload it as a new file? What upload tool are you using, and what error message do you get? - Jmabel ! talk 20:53, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you for your reply. When I uploaded a new file using the Upload Wizard, the upload failed with the error message Found unsafe CSS in the style element of uploaded SVG file. . --Silvermatsu (talk) 04:45, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Silvermatsu: Please review Commons:Help desk/Archive/2022/08#How to fix "Found unsafe CSS in the style element of uploaded SVG file." error?.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:17, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reversions of Austria-Hungary maps by user GPinkerton[edit]

Several weeks ago user GPinkerton reverted several maps of the subdivisions of Austria-Hungary originally created by Ludó (listed below) back to their original 2018 versions, which are full of inaccuracies and anachronistic borders. (Details of the changes made here.) They specified Commons:Overwriting existing files as their justification but provided no additional comments (the summary was simply a link to the policy). I posted a message on their talk page on 6 October asking for further details/explanation, but have had no response.

It is my understanding that the reverted changes would fall under "uncontroversial corrections to diagrams, maps, or charts, if a more accurate version is available". However, I thought it best not to simply re-revert them without first seeking confirmation – I have no intention of starting an upload-war. Is my assessment correct and is it OK to restore the modified versions? If not presumably the "correct" course of action would be to re-upload them under a new file name, change all uses on the various Wikipedias to the corrected versions and tag the originals with {{Superseded}} – if so I assume there is no way to automate the process (it seems like such a tool would be rather prone to abuse) and so it would have to be done manually?

If it is relevant, the files in question had been previously edited by user Claude Zygiel, with whom GPinkerton seems have butted-heads before over uploading "fake" historical maps (i.e. modified versions of old out-of-copyright maps which may give the impression that the modifications are sourced to the original author; see User talk:Claude Zygiel#Manipulating historical maps). GPinkerton also seem to have reverted several other files previously modified by Claude Zygiel on that same day and with the same simple link summary. (See Uploads by GPinkerton.)

Apologies if this is not the right place to post/ask this – if there's a better place please let me know.

Reverted files:

Empire d'Autriche 1914 Goritz et Gradiska.png, Empire d'Autriche 1914 Trieste.png and Empire d'Autriche 1914 Istrie.png were also reverted but had not been edited by me.

Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 21:46, 26 October 2023 (UTC) (post edited to remove three of the files from the list, so as not to imply that I had edited them Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 09:31, 29 October 2023 (UTC))Reply[reply]

At a quick look in areas where I know the details, your (Alphathon's) maps look more accurate. No one here seems to be citing any sources or listing the discrepancies, which makes it hard to sort out (since one of you could be right on one matter and the other on another). I would say that given the credit of "Own work" by Ludovic Lepeltier-Kutasi, you might do better to upload under a distinct file name as a derivative work and give a summary of what purported errors the changes intend to address, and what your authority is for the changes. Some of the changes were simply aesthetic (darker borders, different shades or hues). - Jmabel ! talk 23:11, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
With the exception of Bosnia and Herzegovina (which was changed so that it would be included in Austria-Hungary) no aesthetic changes were (intentionally) made. However, there seems to be a discrepancy in the colour profiles between the versions which I haven't been able to track down which may account for any such differences. The differences/changes made between the original and modified versions, as well as the main sources, are listed here. Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 23:27, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Actually, there were some aesthetic changes made which I had forgotten about – the outer border of Austria-Hungary was changed to black and the coastlines/lake shores to blue. My mistake. Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 23:41, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To be clear though at no point has GPinkerton claimed (explicitly) that the changes made were erroneous. Rather, it is my interpretation that they are taking an absolutist stance on the Commons:Overwriting existing files policy, i.e. something like "never upload a new version of a file made by someone else". Part of the issue here is that they weren't specific so taking appropriate action to remedy the situation is difficult. Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 23:34, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Hi @Alphathon: my apologies for not getting back to you earlier; I had forgotten about your question on my talk page which I neglected to answer. I don't have a particular opinion on the accuracy of the maps, and you are right to surmise that the issue is with Claude Zygiel's editing, but it would seem to me that changes to political or historical borders on maps, however minor, is exactly the kind of thing Commons:Overwriting existing files is intended to forbid. In my view, moving swathes of territory from one province to another is the kind of thing over which wars have been fought, and doing so is not at all like changing a resolution here or changing the colour of shading there. With these Austro-Hungarian maps, being digital native maps, I don't think that so much of a problem if a reliable source can be cited or consensus established. What Claude has been doing, in changing photographs of historical paper maps to make them "correct" according to Claude's own synthesis is for me beyond the pale. (See more at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Europe 1097-corrected.jpg.) The fact that you have discussed the changes with another editor is a good thing, even if the original uploader should be consulted where possible, but the fact that this editor was Claude made me feel that such a limited consensus was insecure. Apologies again for the delay in making this more explicit Alphathon. GPinkerton (talk) 23:58, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks for replying @GPinkerton. I understand your position with regard to Claude Zygiel's edits to old maps and don't think it is an unreasonable one, as doing so can imply a source or create the illusion of authority. With maps originally created for Commons however ("digital native maps" as you put it) I do not think that holds, hence the "uncontroversial corrections to diagrams, maps, or charts" exemption. The "uncontroversial" part seems to be key here – if the accuracy (and possibly neutrality) is disputed then obviously it is right that they should be reverted (at least until consensus is reached). If a map has a specific source listed that may be different (assuming it follows the source accurately), especially if it is specifically supposed to show a particular perspective. In this case though no source is listed at all for the original versions, and several of the borders are clearly anachronistic/modern (see the talk page post of a full list) so given the style I would guess they were simply derived from GIS data or similar for modern subdivisions; Bukovina was probably derived from something like this map of the 1940s Bukovina Governate or a map of the inter-war Romanian counties such as this one. On the other hand, the changes I made were sourced, primarily to official Austro-Hungarian maps:

The Austro-Hungarian borders used (internal and external) are mostly derived directly from the Austrian/Austro-Hungarian military surveys, as well as from individual county maps for Hungary/Croatia-Slavonia (available here or on Commons in Category:Old maps of counties in the Kingdom of Hungary and Category:Maps of counties of Croatia-Slavonia) and cross-referenced with maps covering all of Hungary.

It seems to me that official Austro-Hungarian survey and county maps are about as reliable and as far from "controversial" as is possible for an administrative map of Austria-Hungary. The only borders not sourced to the Austro-Hungarian surveys/county maps were the Germany–Russia border, which was sourced from German survey maps (Messtischblätter) (although the same border does appear on the Austro-Hungarian 1:200k survey sheets at a lower level of detail) and some of those in the Balkans which changed following the Second Balkan War (primarily the borders between Serbia, Montenegro and Albania).
What Claude Zygiel has been doing to photographs[/scans] of historical paper maps is really not relevant, as
  • my versions of the maps (the current versions before you reverted) were derived from the original versions, not Claude Zygiel's, with the only changes retained from their versions being the re-coloured outer border and Bosnia and Herzegovina (which I re-implemented from scratch),
  • all edits should be taken on their own merit, not because a particular user made them (and in this case they did not), and
  • these files are not photographs/scans of historical paper maps
Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 09:31, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • @Alphathon: I completely respect what you are trying to do but when you disagree with someone about a map they uploaded and that you want to overwrite, "mostly sourced from maps on such-and-such website" is only marginally better than no citation at all. It doesn't allow anyone to check your work without doing roughly as much research as you did yourself. Cite individual maps, be specific about what areas you made changes in based on what map. Otherwise, upload to a different file name and make your case on individual Wikipedias to adopt your maps. If you want to just overwrite like this, the standards of citation should pretty much be those typical for Wikipedia. - Jmabel ! talk 16:17, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fair enough. I wasn't really thinking of it as a formal citation (just descriptive prose) at the time so could have been clearer/more explicit, although I don't think "mostly sourced from maps on such-and-such website" is quite fair.

  • "...mostly derived directly from the Austrian/Austro-Hungarian military surveys...": This refers to the Franzisco-Josephinische Landesaufnahme (third military survey of the Habsburg Empire) which was conducted by the k.u.k. Militärgeographisches Institut (Imperial and Royal Military-Geographical Institute). The survey itself and the original 1:25K sheets (and 1:75K versions) date from the 1860s–80s, but updated 1:200K sheets were produced in the 1900s and 1910s, which are available on Commons here (along with some of the 19c. sheets). The military surveys are the main official maps of Austria-Hungary, possibly second only to the cadastral maps which define the municipal boundaries. The "mostly" here just refers to the fact that some areas lie beyond the bounds/temporal range of the survey maps, but I see how it could be ambiguous.
  • "...individual county maps for Hungary/Croatia-Slavonia...": The website linked to, which is also the source of those available on Commons (and the 1:200K survey sheets (here)), is lazarus.elte.hu, the (old) website of Eötvös Loránd University, Faculty of Informatics, Institute of Cartography and Geoinformatics. (They have a new page at terkep.elte.hu but have kept the old one up presumably to maintain the resources there.) The versions with the coloured districts are credited (on the maps themselves) as Kiadatott a vallás-és közoktatásügyi m. kir. Minister úr megbizásából, which I believe† is the Royal Hungarian Minister of Religion and Public Education (Vallás- és Közoktatásügyi Minisztérium).
  • "...cross-referenced with maps covering all of Hungary" was intentionally broad as I used several maps, but only used them to double check the other sources rather than as sources in-and-of themselves.
    • The main one is A Magyar Állam Közigazgatási Térképe ("Administrative map of the Hungarian state"†), 1914, credited to A M. Kir. Állami Nyomda Kiadása which I understand† to be the official royal Hungarian state printer.
    • This map from Stielers Handatlas (hosted by Stanford University's David Rumsey Historical Map Collection) was also used for "cross-referencing". Since it shows essentially the whole region depicted in these maps it can also be used to verify areas beyond Hungary. However, being a 1911 map it has a few minor differences in some of the Hungarian county boundaries (e.g. Pusztamérges is shown as part of Pest-Pilis-Solt-Kiskun rather than Csongrád), and of course does not show the Balkan borders from 1913. (Some of the survey sheets also have this problem. I can see why 1914 was chosen but if the originals had not specified 1914 I would probably have chosen a slightly earlier date.)
    • A few other maps were also used but I don't have them to hand.

† I do not speak Hungarian so my understanding of the texts relies on machine translation, although I have checked the translations to the best of my ability.

As to the specific changes made, I did post a broad list of changes made (quoted here for convenience):

  • Bukovina: the original version showed the 1930s Romanian boundaries; Claude Zygiel's version was much better but still not accurate.
  • Various anachronistic/modern boundaries:
    • Tyrol–Italy: the previous versions showed the modern province boundaries (Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol).
    • Carinthia–Italy: the original version showed the modern boundaries while Claude Zygiel's version erroneously added extra territory to the Littoral/Gorizia.
    • Lower Austria–Bohemia/Moravia
    • Styria–Carniola
    • Galicia and Lodomeria: the previous versions used modern Polish Voivodeship and Ukrainian Oblast boundaries among other inaccuracies.
    • Bosnia and Herzegovina: did not include Sutorina and had incorrect borders with Croatia-Slavonia.
    • Balkan states: the previous versions largely showed the modern borders, which did not match those of 1914 (Southern Dobruja was Romanian, Montenegro was larger etc).
  • Romania–Hungary/Transylvania border: the original version showed modern Romanian boundaries; Claude Zygiel's version was better but still not accurate.
  • Kotor/Cattaro was missing in the original version and Claude Zygiel's version was inaccurate.
  • Hungarian county boundaries: almost all of them had some inaccuracy so I am not sure what the original source was. Claude Zygiel's version also offset them for some reason.
  • Teschen/Cieszyn/Těšín borders (Silesia)

...[I also added] a single additional enclave [(Moravian exclave)] – Nové Vrbno/Neu Würben/Goldseifen [– to Austrian Silesia].

I do not think it is practical to list every change specifically, as that would essentially be a list of all the crownlands and Hungarian counties (I think the only completely untouched one is Austria above the Enns/Upper Austria), and most are simply minor border corrections rather than the transfer of specific areas. I can be more specific about some of the changes though. For example, "Lower Austria–Bohemia/Moravia" refers to the areas around Feldsberg/Valtice and Gmünd/České Velenice, which were part of Austria below the Enns/Lower Austria until the 1919 Treaty of Saint-Germain. For the Tyrol–Italy border, the specific differences are the Valvestino, Pedemonte, and Fodom/(Cortina d')Ampezzo, which are now part of Brescia, Vicenza and Belluno respectively but were part of Tyrol (what is now Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol) until shortly after WWI (1920s I think).

Alphathon /ˈæɫfə.θɒn/ (talk) 00:38, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikipedia is a mirror of real humanity. In today's humanity, more and more conflicting contradictions replace collaborative work, dogmatism and the blind application of a few rules replace thought, dialogue is useless, any divergent opinion is suspect, any improvement constitutes a fake, and we must faithfully propagate all errors from secondary sources so as not to fall into original research. I'm tired. --Claude Zygiel (talk) 16:19, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Date of created or published image not found[edit]

Hello, What happens if you can't get the date that an image was created or published? Thank you, Enedina Vera Max4everr! (talk) 22:14, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • If this is an issue that needs to be resolved to determine copyright status, it probably means the image should not be uploaded to Commons, under the precautionary principle.
  • Otherwise: presumably you can pin it down to some range. E.g. {{circa|1923}} produces "circa 1923
    date QS:P,+1923-00-00T00:00:00Z/9,P1480,Q5727902
    ", {{other date|before|1937}} produces "before 1937
    date QS:P,+1937-00-00T00:00:00Z/7,P1326,+1937-00-00T00:00:00Z/9
    ", etc. - Jmabel ! talk 23:18, 26 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Upload pdf - page by page[edit]

Hello, It must have been asked before... I have just downloaded 3 beautiful (PD) 1910 volumes/pdfs of Japanese Temples and Their Treasures, consisting of several hundred plates. Is there an upload option that would split these 500 MB+ pdfs into individual jpg pages during upload (preferable), or do I need to split them this end prior to upload? Thank you, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 00:21, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Oddly edited image - what action to take?[edit]

File:PeteBauer.jpg appears to have been edited to make one of the subject's eyes noticeably lower than the other. If you look at the given source, http://www.photoshophalloffame.com/peter-bauer, the image does not appear, but there is a different photo of him in which his eyes are aligned normally. The uploading user, Mayorbauer (talk · contribs), is likely to be Peter Bauer, the subject of the image. He may have made that edit himself (he is in the Photoshop Hall of Fame, after all), although the reason for it isn't clear to me. I'm a bit concerned that either Bauer is having a laugh at our expense or someone else is having a laugh at his expense. What action, if any, should be taken on this image? Apocheir (talk) 03:49, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Apocheir: You can nominate the file for speedy deletion (with copyvio and a link to a copy of the original photo). It looks like a modified version of the photo used in his Amazon profile. In this case, it doesn't matter who modified the photo, because the original photo is not credited and sourced, it is on the internet and there is no indication that it is free and the modified file has a false source. The article on en.wikipedia has often been edited and/or vandalized by several accounts using the name of this person. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:55, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Downloading an OGG file[edit]

I would like to download File:Bob Minor, Synthesised Bell Sounds.ogg. On that page, the link “Download” opens a box with fields for Page URL, File URL, and Attribution, as well as two links, but no way to actually download the OGG file. So how can I download it?

(I asked a different question about the same file at en:Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing#Play an OGG file slower) ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 10:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@SebastianHelm: Click on the link that says "full resolution". That's the download.
If your browser is set up to automatically open the OGG in a new tab or window, you'll need to take a further step of saving that page, using the browser's usual means of saving a page. - Jmabel ! talk 20:56, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you, that solves it. I was confused because ① it says “image file” there, and ② then Chrome opens and plays the OGG. But the window has a “⁝” button, which opens a menu with a “⤓ download” command. ◅ Sebastian Helm 🗨 21:57, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Logotype[edit]

I wish to upload a brand new logotype for the school Hvilan Utbildning in Skåne, Sweden. Do I need the written permission from the school's president? If so, where shall I send that permission? Klurik123 (talk) 11:45, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello. If the logo is below the COM:threshold of originality, then no permission is needed, and you can upload it here as public domain. Otherwise, the permission you would need is for the holder of the copyright to release it under a licence such as CC-BY-SA, which would allow anybody to reuse or alter it for any purpose (commercial or not) as long as they attributed the source. It is possible your institution would agree to this, but it seems unlikely. See COM:Licensing for more information.
If you are wanting to use the logo in a Wikipedia article, then some Wikipedias allow non-free content in some situations. For example, in English Wikipedia, en:WP:Logos tells you how you can use logos. I don't know whether Swedish Wikipedia allows this or not. ColinFine (talk) 15:42, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Klurik123 and ColinFine: Swedish Wikipedia allows no fair use per m:nfc and has no files per m:List of Wikipedias having zero local media files. See also COM:TOO Sweden.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 23:11, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Templated subcategory not visible in parent category[edit]

Categories of the form "Category:Churches in the United States photographed in YEAR" are defined by the template {{USA-churchphotoyear}}. I recently modified this template to parent from "Category:Buildings in the United States photographed in YEAR" to "Category:Religious buildings in the United States photographed in YEAR", yet each "Category:Churches in the United States photographed in YEAR" isn't visible in "Category:Religious buildings in the United States photographed in YEAR". See for example Category:Churches in the United States photographed in 2023 and Category:Religious buildings in the United States photographed in 2023. Is this some kind of indexing bug that has a known workaround? -- DanielPenfield (talk) 15:58, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

As of this writing, the problem seems to have resolved itself. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 16:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Photos after 1928[edit]

I found a bunch of photos of the Red Hill Band in the Schwenkfelder Library & Heritage Center archive. I've uploaded all of the images that were taken before 1928. What does the process look like for uploading the photos after 1928? I have photos from the 1940s (one of a parade and another of their first car), I have one of the 1950 anniversary concert, I have a photo of the band at the New Goshenhoppen band shell in 1975, and one from 2002 at the Upper Perkiomen High School. I also have a poster for one of their concerts in 1970 and the poster for their 100th year anniversary (looks like their was a design contest for it). The band itself is still around and the members I've contacted have expressed interest in uploading any photos I can find. I asked the librarian at the Schwenkfelder who sent me the photos if it would be okay to upload them to Wikipedia and they said yes as well. TipsyElephant (talk) 12:04, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The process for post-1928 American photographs is essentially finding out the provenance of the photographs, which would hopefully tell you when they were published and if they had a copyright notice. Before 1978, published works needed copyright notice in order to gain a copyright, and there is U. S. law that publication before 1978 occurred when the photograph left the custody of the original photographer. For a 2002 photograph, you'd need to have the photographer contact COM:VRT to grant permission for a free license since a 2002 photograph is automatically copyrighted. Abzeronow (talk) 16:02, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Abzeronow: I believe most of these pictures have been taken by people closely associated with the band. Many of the photos were kept by LeRoy Shultz and eventually donated to the Schwenkfelder Heritage Center. A few of them were donated by a women, but they didn't have the name of the person. I asked about licensing and copyrights on one of the photos a while back and the librarian said it didn't have a license or copyright. Should I contact the librarian again and confirm that none of these have a copyright? If you had to obtain a copyright notice through some formal process then I highly doubt that any of them had a copyright notice. How would I confirm this? TipsyElephant (talk) 01:55, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Clindberg: , there would have to be a "copyright" or a copyright symbol with the year somewhere with the photograph if it were published before 1978. Do you know when these were donated? Abzeronow (talk) 16:49, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If they were were distributed individually before 1989 then yes there needed to be a copyright symbol or the word "copyright" (or abbreviation) somewhere. If they were part of a publication, then a copyright notice for the entire publication would cover any photos inside (other than advertisements). Note that the date starts from publication, not from when they were actually taken. Anything published before 1964 also needed to have its copyright renewed with the US Copyright Office, which was exceedingly rare with individual photos. It gets more difficult with private photos; those could have been unpublished. Although if someone gave out prints at the time, that could well be publication (there was no clear definition in law, so it's always muddy). If they were donated to the center before 1989 they are probably fine. If they were prints distributed around at the time (so one person could collect them) they are probably fine. If they were personal photos not donated before 1989, that could be a technical problem. Carl Lindberg (talk) 18:33, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Abzeronow and Carl Lindberg: I've contacted the librarian to hopefully get more information. None of the photos have copyright symbols anywhere on them (front or back). They were donated in two batches. One was donated by LeRoy Shultz and another was donated by a woman who was in the band. Some of the images were distributed locally as postcards and some of them identified names of people in the picture with a phone number to call if you recognized any of the unidentified people. I don't when these were distributed, but I would guess it was before 1989. Some of the photos have been used in newspaper articles. If they were used in newspaper articles after 1989 will that be a problem? TipsyElephant (talk) 19:31, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Clindberg: looks like I got your username wrong the first time around so I'm re-pinging you. TipsyElephant (talk) 19:33, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If they are postcards from before 1989 with no notice they are definitely fine. You had to have a notice on all copies (well, at least most) so publication elsewhere would not matter.
I just found one that was not a postcard as far as I'm aware that was published in a newspaper in 1950. Would that be okay as well?
Almost certainly. You can check this page for the newspaper to see when its first renewals were for. If not listed, or a later date than 1950, it's fine. Carl Lindberg (talk) 21:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

To recver the file from Nomination of deletion[edit]

I'm Asiant22, myself I had uploaded the File:Jishnu Raghavan.jpg now this file is under speed deletion criteria.It was not my own work I had took from Facebook.Please give me a solution, Thanking you Asiant22 (talk) 12:59, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please read COM:L, we cannot accept works from Facebook if they are not your own work. You could try asking the photographer to contact COM:VRT to grant permission for a free license. Abzeronow (talk) 15:54, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright help regarding File:Miguel Saiz gobernador.jpg[edit]

Hello. I believe this file is under fair use since it is an official portrait of an Argentine government official, but I could not find the original picture (this is a cropped version of a photograph taken of the portrait), so I do not know what its license is. Apologies if I erred in uploading this photograph.


--Skyline2023 (talk) 20:24, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Skyline2023: Commons does not accept files on a "fair use" basis (and "fair use" is always dependent on the context in which a photo is used, anyway), so if you are correct that its use here in Commons would constitute fair use, that would be a reason to delete it. However, I think it is most likely {{PD-AR-Photo}}. You don't give even an estimated date, though, so I can't be sure of that. - Jmabel ! talk 22:10, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry, I am not familiar with copyright terminology so I said "fair use" when I meant copyright-free. Thank you. Skyline2023 (talk) 22:13, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Another artist, another chance for my brand-new author icon[edit]

After our first go-round (as detailed at Commons:Help desk/Archive/2023/08#Uploading my brand-new author icon to Commons) ultimately went nowhere, here's to hoping our next r/furry artist, "Creation2Station", delivers what I need for my Miraheze sidebar logo/Wikimedia portrait badge. And before you ask, @Jmabel: I reminded him about the VRT process and how much easier it is to state the license on the original RDT post--lessons learned this time. (Sadly, attempts to contact our last guest ["LeoTheFloofyDragon"] re: choosing his license have borne almost no fruit, so his take might as well be staying on his RDT/DeviantART profiles for the foreseeable future.)

Apparently, C2S may be starting to work on that request as I type, so we'll wait and see how it goes this time. Any further advice? --Slgrandson (talk) 02:47, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

categories of italian military aircraft registrations (Tornado)[edit]

I noticed, that in the Category:Panavia Tornado in Italian service aircraft are being listed under their squadron identification code e.g. 6-25 instead of their military registration which is MM7043 in that example (see that number on the tail of this photo).

The point is, that an individual aircraft during its service obtains different squadron identification codes. Watch this photo-collection, where the aircraft MM6970 is beeing seen as 51-04 in 1996 but also as 5-45 in the year 2002 while the military registration remained the same.

Before I start to add this MM.... category (all these are in the Aircraft by registration-category) I need a second opinion on the hierarchy and secondly to my opinion, that one could leave the sqadron code category on these files as they are, as this is actually still another way to find them in the Aircraft by registration-category.

the only weak point is, that I would only add those pictures of a X-XX squadron code to the MM.... code that ere either clearly visible or taken at roughly the same time (in the case of 6-25 all can be added to MM7043).

Hierachy of the categories that I thought of firstyː

-Panavia Tornado in Italian service

-MM7043

-6-25

while both (MM7043 and 6-25) remain in the "Aircraft by registration"-category.

this would mean, that the 6-25 will not be visible in the Category:Panavia Tornado in Italian service anymore. Or would it be better to have these two in there both at the same time?

At the moment, only one aircraft is in the Category:Panavia Tornado in Italian service in both ways; it is MM55002 which is also I-41. (I naturally created MM55002 when uploading, as this is its registration and then realized, that the upper category contains NO MM.... registrations, which is wrong or at least incomplete).

Correct so far and 2nd questionː hierarchy or same level? Anidaat (talk) 08:22, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Anidaat: are squadron codes permanently unique? Or can two different aircraft have the same squadron code at different times? If they are unique, then they are probably good categories, and should be subcats of the registration number. If they are not unique, then they need further qualification to be good category names.
As for the hierarchy, think about what we do for ships, or at least most modern ships. We have the IMO, which permanently identifies the vessel, and might have any number of categories which combine a name and a date of construction (and, very rarely, a further disambiguator when needed) and are subcats of the IMO cat. Things like what force they were part of are generally associated with the vessel name, not the IMO. - Jmabel ! talk 16:24, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Anita Hoffman with son.jpg[edit]

Does the file Anita Hoffman with son.jpg have a free license? NoonIcarus (talk) 12:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

It's clearly licensed under CC-BY-SA-4.0. I think the question you meant to ask is whether a user whose only contribution to the project is this photo is in a position to provide such a license. Have you performed an image search to determine any prior publication?RadioKAOS (talk) 12:43, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
NoonIcarus, RadioKAOS, Tineye fails to find it. Google lens finds multiple items, but is relatively silent on the dates, so is hard to determine whether the hits came first or the Commons upload. More research is required to determine this. 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 14:01, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
https://kids.kiddle.co/Abbie_Hoffman dates the picture as taken in 1972 🇺🇦 Timtrent 🇺🇦 talk to me 🇺🇦 14:04, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Taken from Wikipedia / Commons. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:30, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The upload occurred the day before the comment at File talk:Abbie Hoffman and Johanna Lawrenson.jpg. It's reasonably possible that the Commons copy was the first publication and was uploaded by or on behalf of someone with access to the original photo. However, it's not sourced as own work, but it's sourced from family archives and credited to Leah Kushner. As such, it would require evidence that the license was offered by the actual copyright owner. -- Asclepias (talk) 16:30, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
See Anita Hoffman with son.jpg. I think we have this well sorted out now as being uploaded by a legitimate heir, but if anyone still sees a need for VRT, please do it sooner rather than later. Or I'd be willing to publish the correspondence here, but with email addresses suppressed. - Jmabel ! talk 00:15, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@RadioKAOS and Jmabel: Hi. I'm sorry, that's correct. From the description I could see that the source was family photos. If there aren't issues with the copyright because of this, then that's alright. --NoonIcarus (talk) 01:27, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Descargar sedes de Instituciones inspirados por otros[edit]

Buenas se puede descargar fotos de sedes de Instituciones (Alcaldías, Gobernaciones, etc.) en Venezuela, inspirados por otros (por ejemplo si busco en Google una sede de una Alcaldía del Municipio Maracaibo del Estado Zulia, Venezuela)?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 14:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • ¿"Sede" en el sentido de un edificio? ¿o en algún otro sentido? Y, ¿que significa "inspirados" aquí? Si la foto es grabado por otra persona, los derechos del autor pertenecen al fotógrafo. - Jmabel ! talk 16:36, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    @Jmabel: Por ejemplo si descargo en google una foto del arquitecto de una institución pero es grabado por otra persona esta permitido hacer "Upload"??
    AbchyZa22 (talk) 23:06, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
    • En general, no. Como he dicho, los derechos del autor pertenecen al fotógrafo. Si los derechos de autor han expirado, resultando en la obra siendo ahora en el dominio público, entonces sería aceptable sobre esa base. En Venezuela, los derechos del autor duran 60 años después de la muerte del autor. - Jmabel ! talk 23:46, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Editing anothers overexposed photos[edit]

I've just signed up for an account and one thing I found I can do is correct photos. When I tried I was asked if it was my photo, but I'm not the original photographer. How do I handle this? Torquepuppies (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

With much caution. A good understanding of Commons:Overwriting files and a knowledge of Commons usages. And a bit of patience until your account gets the possibility to overwrite files. "Correcting" other people's works can be subjective. It's fine where it's appropriate. -- Asclepias (talk) 17:00, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Change photo name[edit]

When I uploaded File:Red Hill Band 1925.tif I had found sources saying the photo was taken around 1925. I recently found this File:Town And Country - Vol 7 No 12 Pg 1 - June 24 1905.png, which was published in 1905 and contains the photo. So clearly the photo was not taken in 1925, but I included 1925 in the file name. How do I move or rename the file? Also, what are the standard practices for naming conventions of photos on Wikimedia Commons? TipsyElephant (talk) 19:48, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I've renamed the file since the year is an error as you state. Abzeronow (talk) 19:59, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please, see Commons:File renaming for more information. Ruslik (talk) 20:00, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File overwriting not allowed[edit]

I often used the function "Upload a new version", but today I always get the message "File overwriting not allowed". I tried pictures with every lisence and none worked. Is there a new rule in place recently? If so, please clear all files, which are not allowed to be overwritten, of the "Upload a new version" button. It is really annoying to be given an option, that doesn't actually exist. - If this is not the case and the problem has a solution, please advise. Thanks in advance. MenkinAlRire (talk) 21:45, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

OK, I discovered the guideline edit from 28 October, where a stricter rule was implemented. This is hard to swallow, that every time I improve an image for better use in an article, I have to ask for an exception or upload it anew, so that I have to change the filenames in the page(s) I am editing. You may take my image edits as example, if they are really not an improvement, even if the edits may be more than minor. I wonder, how the banner is triggered; it has to be a quantitative measure, I suppose. Anyway, it's frustrating. MenkinAlRire (talk) 22:09, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@MenkinAlRire: Please, if you are uploading another version of the same image under a different name, link them either with {{Other version}} or {{Derivative works}} / {{Derived from}}. - Jmabel ! talk 23:50, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
There was no way to tell. I am just learning the new ways;) But, sincerely, how could I know that? Until Yesterday it all went smooth. And now restrictions are gone into effect. I just followed the proposed way to use the upload wizard. There are no notifications or instructions whatsoever. And I wouldn't even know, where to link them (under 'source'?). MenkinAlRire (talk) 03:31, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@MenkinAlRire: under "other versions" (which is in {{Information}} and quite a few other templates). Do I take it that up to now you have never modified a file in a way that required also preserving the prior version? That's unusual, for what it's worth. - Jmabel ! talk 06:14, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel: if there is no other version, I don't see any (possible) entry of that kind, so I have to know about the possibility of the addition first. Now I know, and I will use it, if indicated. Thank you.) - I wouldn't upload a new version, if I wasn't sure, that the edited image is better than before. The original file isn't destroyed, everyone may compare the versions (and in case reverse my version; I wouldn't fight it). I am usually rather annoyed about the number of bad images, that I have to examine one by one, before I choose the best to put in an article. And often I edit them, tilt, colour, shadows, light, sharpness, colour aberration, and try to enhance its clearness, that is to expose all information that I can get out of it (It is not a question of asthetics whatsoever). Balancing the tilt might lead to some context cut away. But substantially cropped versions I am always uploading as a new image (for which, I will follow your advice from now on). Hence I don't really understand your remark, that it would be unusual. - By the way, the obligatory new name differs only in a supplement at the end (e.g. _1, b or cropped) of the original filename as unsufficient as I may find it; otherwise I would have made an unintentional error. MenkinAlRire (talk) 21:20, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sharpening can actually be pretty controversial. It can introduce artifacts. I, for one, generally prefer to make my own decisions about what post-processing I want on my photos, and while I've had a few times where someone definitely improved a photo of mine, I've had far more where a change was not an unambiguous improvement, and I've reverted it. No comment on your particular edits here, which I haven't really studied, and if you've never or almost never been reverted then you are probably doing it well. - Jmabel ! talk 00:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, I am rather scrupolous, especially with sharpening. Almost always jpgs are already processed in the camera to its limits, but with too much saturation and drowned shadows. Images taken with bigger machines that are uploaded as they are often have room for improvement. As I said, the details are key, since wiki should provide information and is not a forum to show off with your nicest pictures (night scenes..., arrgh!) or even just to dumb your memory card here and to use it as your cloud (and let others do the work). If you edit the images yourself you should be safe from me,)
Another thing, maybe you might help, since yesterday I cannot log in on my tablet and phone anymore, where I was always logged in. On PC it's fine. I deleted cookies and tried again without success, always: "There seems to be a problem with your login session; this action has been canceled as a precaution against session hijacking. Please resubmit the form." If you don't know anything about it, you might have an idea where to look or who to ask. Thanks for your tip and the conversation, MenkinAlRire 2A02:8071:5072:9060:3C29:7006:10D1:37F4 13:41, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Cover image[edit]

Is it legal to put an image on the cover of a book that is to be sold? The following data will be provided: title, author, year, download address ect. Polski

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Cover image

Is it legal to put an image on the cover of a book that is to be sold? The following data will be provided: title, author, year, download address 5.173.188.89 13:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • There is no general answer to that question. Are you talking about some specific image? If it is an image on Commons, any specific requirements to license the image will be stated on the Commons file page of the image. Different images on Commons have different requirements. If you've looked there and still don't know what to do, please link the relevant file page here so someone can give you a concrete answer. - Jmabel ! talk 18:39, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading a photo[edit]

I's trying to upload a photo for a wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anand_Jon And I'm having difficulty doing it. It's just a simple photo. so I'm not sure why it has to be such a process... Sethbaby123 (talk) 15:50, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Refrencing Wikimedia[edit]

Who do I reference as the owner for Wikimedia (Bibliography) 146.95.224.105 19:16, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • I absolutely don't understand that question. Is there some particular page whose content you are trying to reference? And where are you trying to reference it? - Jmabel ! talk 00:22, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Misspelled category[edit]

The commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Letzte Genration, Berlin, 2023-05-10 should be spelled "Generation". See w:de:Letzte Generation. I would normally set about fixing it myself, but I am a bit snowed under at the moment. Best, RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 20:26, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Replace primary subject photo for 'Mihail Chemiakin'.[edit]

I would like to replace the primary image on the page 'Mihail Chemiakin'. The photo I wish to use is a personal file at this point. What steps would I need to follow in order to accomplish this? Alan Lamb - USA (talk) 21:35, 30 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Uploading >70 year old photos[edit]

Hello, is it legal to upload photos of Eduard Grüneisen from his obituary published in 1949 at doi.org/10.1002/andp.19494400102, and also from the document uni-marburg.de/de/fb13/fachbereich/profil/das-physikalische-institut-von-1933-bis-1945.pdf published by University of Marburg Physics Department in 1996? I guess the photos have lost their copyright since it has been more than 70 years that they were taken? Thanks for the help, --Blue.painting (talk) 09:53, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, This is most probably in the public domain in Europe. However it may have its copyright renewed in USA by URAA. Yann (talk) 10:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright help regarding File:Vita Zaverukha.jpg[edit]

Hello! Please help me correctly install the license for this file. Articles about Vitu Zaviruha need illustration, but a suitable photo cannot be uploaded. Sincerely, Yarkovesh (talk) 13:59, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Deleted the file since it was a copyright violation (it's from Elle's French magazine). I disagree with the notion that articles need illustration, but you should check local wikipedia's policies on non-free content like m:Non-free content if a free photograph cannot be found. Abzeronow (talk) 15:50, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I am going to upload media from an official Wikimedia Germany Event which is not my own work - Do you need VRT permission by WMDE or even individuals in your queue?[edit]

Hi, in consent with WMDE, I am going to upload a couple of videos featuring presentations from WikiCon 2023 (German speaking Wikimedia conference). Does Wikimedia Commons require {{Permission pending}} for them? Thanks for your help in advance. -- WikiCon2023Uploads (talk) 16:20, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@WikiCon2023Uploads: copyright necessarily belongs to the person who owns the copyright (that is, the person who took the video). It would be simplest if they uploaded it themself, but if for some reason that is not convenient, assuming they have an account you can attribute to them and they can just log in and confirm the permission on the file talk page instead of going through VRT. - Jmabel ! talk 17:47, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ok, thanks. You'll see it's oftentimes a complex copyright situation where not only a single speaker can claim copyright over the entire work and the encoding and upload stuff is also somewhat complicated, so no, not all users would be even able to upload; not even all of them have accounts tied to their names real names, which they might have used. We'll probably go through VRT because that simplifies the process for me. -- WikiCon2023Uploads (talk) 18:03, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I hadn't considered that the presentations would themselves each be copyrighted, but, yeah, they would be. Good luck in clearing this up. I hope people signed releases of some sort in advance, it would make this all a lot simpler. - Jmabel ! talk 20:58, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Image accessibility[edit]

There's an image - File:Sygreversed.png - that has poor accessibility due to use of white on a white background. The original uploader appears to no longer be on Wikimedia. Is there any type of template or tag I could add to the page or other way of alerting other editors to this page that the image needs editing/adjusting/altering for accessibility so as many people as possible can properly read and view the it? Helper201 (talk) 21:41, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

File:Sygreversed.png
@Helper201: This version seems meant to be used with an added background to the choice of the user. There seems to be no free license at the source. If this logo is not free, it can't be on Commons. If it is free, you can make a request to the Commons:Graphic Lab for a version with a specific background. -- Asclepias (talk) 01:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Helper201: I could not find a free license at the source, so I tagged it as a copyvio.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 10:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Copyright help regarding File:C Sharp Logo 2023.svg[edit]

I don't know what license I should put, it's just the new logo of CSharp I got from the official Microsoft website --Cobaiahackers (talk) 14:54, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Cobaiahackers: That should be {{PD-textlogo}} and I've now marked it appropriately, but in the future please don't upload content when you do not specifically know that it is either in the public domain or free-licensed. - Jmabel ! talk 16:59, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Can I get some help[edit]

Hi I'm Kylie I'm new here I have seen that there are some"bots" that edit around Wikipedia and they are really doing a great job. So i would want to know how to get my own. I know that i won't be able to edit probably cause I'm new, so that's why I'm in the need of using it.

Pls get back to me with an answer. Kylie (talk) 18:48, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You made my day. Which programming language will you be using for coding your bot? --Achim55 (talk) 19:14, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Bots can be written in almost any programming language. The choice of a language often depends on the experience of the bot writer, which languages they are familiar with, or on the availability of pre-developed libraries to perform the desired task. The following list includes several libraries to assist with bot tasks. Kylie (talk) 04:52, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

30 audio files of anthems as MOTD in the next 60 days[edit]

I am Ok, that there will be an OGG of a national anthem be the media of the day every other day until 2024. But I am wondering, how it came to that (canvassed at VP). C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 20:25, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Photographing an old photo found in a book[edit]

Hello Everyone, I want to upload an old photo found in a book published in 1989. The photo is older, and the original author is anonymous. Could I share it? If so, which license shall be used? Bernardo de Claraval (talk) 04:54, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bernardo de Claraval: Hi,
How older is the picture? If it was first published in 1989, it is probably not OK (unless it is really old, and the copyright expired long before). Yann (talk) 11:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
From my understanding, the picture was taken in the early 1970's, however the author has never surfaced, my best guess is that it was taken in a Studio that no longer exists. Bernardo de Claraval (talk) 17:01, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Early 1970s photographs would be still in copyright in many jurisdictions. Abzeronow (talk) 17:03, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I see now, thank you for the information. Bernardo de Claraval (talk) 17:13, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

The page was saved popup[edit]

Is there a way to switch off this popup notification? It blocks me from reading and or copying page title fast, because it overlaps it. Juandev (talk) 07:55, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Juandev: : Can you be more specific as to what you are referring to? Ww2censor (talk) 11:12, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I guess they refer to the "Your edit was published." rectangle that appears near the top right of the screen for a fraction of second after an edit is saved. -- Asclepias (talk) 13:57, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Juandev: Hi, and welcome. We have a gadget that does this named HidePostEdit. To enable it, check the "HidePostEdit: Hide popup when saving your edits." checkbox under "Interface: Editing and uploads" on Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets and Save. Of course, your browser will need to accept our Custom Style Sheets (CSS).   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 04:11, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Public transportation vehicles and their logos[edit]

Am I allowed to post my own photographs of public transportation vehicles such as trains, buses, ferries, etc. They do have logos that I do not own the rights to. I have already posted a picture under public domain, and it is of a ferry in Sydney, Australia. If I must take it down, I will.

Just a bit concerned. --KonlyandhisBeer (talk) 10:53, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@KonlyandhisBeer: Hi,
It is OK if the picture is not focused on the logo, but on the whole vehicle. See Commons:Deletion requests/Pokemon Jet and other related DRs for similar cases. Yann (talk) 11:02, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
KonlyandhisBeer@: If you are asking about File:Olive Cotton river-class ferry departing Barangaroo, F3 Parramatta line.png it looks totally fine. The logo is so tiny that de minimis does not even apply. BTW, for the future, it is better to use jpg format for photographs rather than png. You will see another editor has brightened your photo as it was very dark. Ww2censor (talk) 11:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you @Ww2censor and @Yann! My question may have been somewhat silly, but I was just thinking that the rules were most strict until proven otherwise. Whether my question were silly or not, thank you for helping me as a beginner! I may also take Ww2censor's advise to use a .jpg format for photographs.
Have a good day, --KonlyandhisBeer (talk) 19:54, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How do I know if a Wikipedia page I created is being reviewed for Wikipedia?[edit]

I just created this page "Fitzpatrick, Mary Frances Linder (1861 - 1955)". How do I know that my submission actually exists somewhere within Wikipedia and is being reviewed? Wapsie Crossing (talk) 17:03, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

This is not Wikipedia but Wikimedia Commons. You created en:User:Wapsie Crossing/sandbox. --Achim55 (talk) 17:09, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Your draft is not being reviewed, see [1] on how to make that happen. You also really need to improve your inline citations, see [2]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Forgot to ping @Wapsie Crossing. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:47, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I don't understand. The page I want to create does not exist according to this Wikipedia page [3]. I've assembled biographies for seven of the women listed on the aforementioned page and would like to "create" a Wikipedia page for each. 50.233.194.34 17:57, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
First thing to understand is you are NOT asking this at Wikipedia. This is the sister project for images and media, Wikimedia Commons. You might try taking this to Wikipedia:Help_desk. Cheers, -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 18:22, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or perhaps better yet at en:Wikipedia:Teahouse. - Jmabel ! talk 19:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Wapsie Crossing: : It appears you might be asking about this English wikipedia page in one of your subpages at w:User:Wapsie Crossing/sandbox. Articles in your sandbox are not reviewed without being submitted for review. You should move it to draft space per the details here w:Wikipedia:Drafts#Creating and editing drafts and when it is ready you can submit it for review, but, while I am not a reviewer, there are several issues that will need fixing before it will be accepted such as how the references are done. Ww2censor (talk) 21:30, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to upload pictures[edit]

Uploading pictures Mc caps (talk) 20:04, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Commons:First steps. - Jmabel ! talk 04:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Regarding deleting my uploaded image[edit]

Recently I uploaded an image named BD_Clean_Logo.jpg. It has been deleted due to copyright violation. But I have taken the logo image with permission from the respective organization. Still, why would there be copyright violation? Iamsabbirhosen (talk) 21:35, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you upload something created by anyone other than yourself, you have to show why it is free licensed. If you have specific permission from the copyright holder to release it under a free license (see COM:LICENSE for details), you can have them confirm it, see COM:VRT for how to do that. Image can be undeleted if shown to be confirmed as free licensed. -- Infrogmation of New Orleans (talk) 22:21, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Iamsabbirhosen: and I see you uploaded it again (under a slightly different name) after it was deleted. This is a definite no-no, and if you do it again it will get you blocked. If you can get appropriate permission from the copyright-holder, then you can get it undeleted through Commons:Undeletion requests. If not, then please do not upload it a third time. - 04:59, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
Your other upload File:শাহ্‌ নুরুল কবীর শাহীন.jpg looks equally problematic. Only the holder of the copyright can issue a license. If you do not have at least a basic understanding of copyright law, I strongly suggest that you do not upload anything other than photos you took yourself (and that are not photos of other people's copyrighted work), or you are likely to get yourself in quite a bit of trouble. - Jmabel ! talk 05:02, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How can I change an outdated company logo and replace it with the new logo?[edit]

The Metrovacesa company needs to change the logo, as many media are using this logo for publications and this logo is no longer correct, it was changed many years ago. Victoria Sampietro Tolosana (talk) 09:03, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Victoria Sampietro Tolosana: Hi,
It depends on the logo, so it would help if you specify which company and which logo. In brief, if the logo is very simple, upload it on Commons, and then change the logo on Wikipedia. Otherwise it will need to be uploaded as fair use on Wikipedia. Yann (talk) 09:54, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And if uploading to Commons, upload to a distinct filename, because the old logo is still of historical interest. - Jmabel ! talk 20:17, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

uploading of photo[edit]

what is the minimum and maximum size is required for uploading of photographs. Aviphoto (talk) 10:20, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Aviphoto: Hi,
There is no real minimum and maximum sizes, but the larger, the better. Always upload the original image with EXIF data first, and then you can upload a crop if needed. Yann (talk) 10:50, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Aviphoto Before doing that, you should however take a look at the EXIF data, just in case it contains your name or the location or anything else you do not want to disclose. C.Suthorn (@Life_is@no-pony.farm - p7.ee/p) (talk) 11:43, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please received me[edit]

please received me Please don't block my account I request sar Ajitkumarsahu19world (talk) 13:12, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Blocked.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 03:59, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Logos de Alcaldias en Venezuela caducado[edit]

Buenas, se puede descargar logos de Alcaldias de la antigua gestión inspirados por otros qué fueron caducado, es necesario agregar el "PD-ineligible" o "PD-textlogo"?? AbchyZa22 (talk) 22:49, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@AbchyZa22: Depende de la situación.   — 🇺🇦Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me🇺🇦 03:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jeff G.: Que osea "Depende de la situación", qué significa esto??
AbchyZa22 (talk) 06:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel: Hola,que opina de esto??
AbchyZa22 (talk) 17:59, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Por supuesto, quieres decir "subir", no "descargar", ¿no? Y, según discusiones anteriores, supongo que estamos hablando de Venezuela.
No estoy familiarizado con la expresión "la antigua gestión" en el contexto venezolano. ¿Se refiere a la régimen antes de Hugo Chávez, o hay otra sentido? No entiendo que significa aquí ni "inspirado" (¿como? ¿En su órigen? ¿Como podemos saberlo?) ni "caducado" (¿Qué es caducado? ¿Los derechos del autor, o estás diciendo solamente que el antiguo logo ya no se usa, o qué?) En culaquier caso, yo no soy experto sobre las leyes de propiedad intelectual especificamente venezolanos. No respondí antes porque no sé la respuesta precisa, y porque (como Jeff) sospecho que la pregunta no es lo suficientemente específica como para tener una respuesta simple. - Jmabel ! talk 20:54, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Video game cover and copyright[edit]

Would uploading this - https://www.flickr.com/photos/farusantos/30920814516/ - be acceptable on Wikimedia Commons without breaking any kind of copyright or other rules or guidelines? The photo itself is placed under CC BY-SA 2.0 Deed so its usable for commercial use and mods are allowed, however I'm unsure if the cover art of the game would be under any copyright whereby it would violate any Wikimedia Commons guidelines to upload. Helper201 (talk) 23:42, 3 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Helper201: I can't imagine how that cover art would not be copyrighted. When does it date from? What country? - Jmabel ! talk 01:08, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Jmabel: okay, thanks. The game was released in 2012/2013 (different dates depending on worldwide location), the specific box in the photo looks like it’s from Canada or France, given its also has French language text on it as well as English, though the publisher is a Japanese company. Helper201 (talk) 01:13, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Helper201: Yeah. Zero chance that isn't copyrighted, so the person who snapped the photo is in no position to license it without a release from whoever owns the copyright on the art. - Jmabel ! talk 01:39, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Getting message about block[edit]

I am a long time contributor and have uploaded many images. Issue is I have uploaded a lot of images where there is no freedom of panorama in 2018 and they are being deleted one by one. I got a message about my account may be going to be blocked. While this was not in my knowledge previously but in the current times I am little bit more educated regarding freedom of panorama and copyright stuff. What do you suggest. Shall I delete all the old images or anything specific. Jnanaranjan Sahu (ଜ୍ଞାନ) talk 06:35, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Jnanaranjan sahu: Hi,
Do not upload pictures not taken by you (e.g. File:Manakatha Janantu.pdf, File:Facbook username creation page.jpg). If you need help, please ask here, or on copyright-issues board. But seeing that most issues are indeed FoP-related, I removed the warning. Please archive your talk page. Thanks, Yann (talk) 09:42, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thank you @Yann.
Well I kind of know them. And those are old mistakes. I think all newbies do. I am more curious about the warning messages. Is there any warning system. I have never got one and suddenly last warning. Also my question was about the past uploads. Shall I take any action on them? Jnanaranjan Sahu (ଜ୍ଞାନ) talk 13:50, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Using Government Logos UK[edit]

Hi, I want to upload the logo of a government organisation (Government People Group, a group within the cabinet office) to wikimedia commons. The logo is under Crown Copyright (as all UK images are) but as it is an identifying media for a public facing and government organisation I think it may fall under fair use should the image not be distorted or misrepresented.

Please advise on what you think if you are knoweledgable on this. Thanks GPG Communications (talk) 10:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How old is this logo? Ruslik (talk) 20:18, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikiproject to upload fair use non-commercial images?[edit]

I have been involved in two dicussions from different countries where it would be allowed to upload images if they were not used commercially or used to inform. Is there some wikiproject where files can be uploaded that are only fair to use on wikipedia? Or does anyone know any other Wikimedia project for files and/or images? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 04:59, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Paradise Chronicle: I can't see how such a thing could possibly be done. And I think you may be confusing two (or more) issues.
"Fair use" is a provision in U.S. law, with parallels in some other countries, that allows certain uses of copyrighted material without a license, and which always depends on the context in which the material is used. That is, there is no such thing as an image that is inherently "fair use" or inherently not "fair use", it's always about the context in which the image is used.
Entirely separately from that, some images have licenses that allow non-commercial use, but do not allow commercial use ("NC" licenses). This is completely unrelated to the issue of "fair use".
Each Wikipedia has its own rules on fair use and on images that have only a non-commercial license.
As far as I know (correct me if I'm wrong) there is no Wikipedia that has different policies for NC licenses than for images that have no free license at all.
Policies for using images on a "fair use" basis vary among the different Wikipedias. For example:
  • The German-language Wikipedia, does not allow this at al
  • In the English-language Wikipedia, each such image requires an explicit statement of the rationale for using the image for each specific article where it is used, making it absolutely necessary to have a file page for the image in en-wiki so that there is a place to state that rationale.
  • I'm not as familiar with the policies of the other Wikipedias, but these two alone would seem to be enough to preclude any possibility of a single central repository of such images.
Jmabel ! talk 05:59, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You are right, I was not aware that "fair use" was an US law expression and that the German wikipedia does not allow this at all. Thanks for clearing that up. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:11, 5 November 2023 (UTC)Reply[reply]
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